DAMMIT JAGVAR

"RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht" (ramblininexile) 04/07/2014 at 11:33 • Filed to: None

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You went and posted an !!!error: Indecipherable SUB-paragraph formatting!!! *with OHV*, and now I'm going absolutely nuts trying to figure out what it is. The closest match I've found so far is a Standard, as would be found in a Fergie tractor or TR-2, but I don't think that's it.

Takuro Spirit > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 04/07/2014 at 11:39

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I was more concerned with him walking around there sans shoes.

Jagvar > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 04/07/2014 at 11:39

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It definitely wasn't out of a car. It appeared to have once been tractor of some sort, so I'm sure you're on the right track.

McMike > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 04/07/2014 at 11:47

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I did the same thing. At one point I was searching for "OHV timing chain electric start four cylinder water cooled tractor engine block."

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Jagvar 04/07/2014 at 11:49

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Funny thing, though (I'm passing toward acceptance of it being maybe a Standard variant), but the engine in a Ferguson tractor was essentially the same as the one in a TR-2.

What makes this engine weird is that most modern four-cylinders with wet liners (read, since the 50s) have a more full deck to hold the liner better. I can't seem to find a pic of a Standard with the head off - but the Continental and other tractor lines similar have a full deck web. The only other one I've seen like this (with the cylinders ~ loose and just held by the block on the sides) is a line made by Rover descending from the Standard - so the "It's British" explanation may be right.

This sort of lazy securing of the liner is more common with a flathead, which this is not (and a flathead would have more sealing). It also wouldn't be uncommon with a through-bolted engine, which this is also not. Some engines have a plate that holds the liners (including old John Deeres), but that would mean the plate got separated from the liners and lost at some point.

Apart from wacky liners and a cam on the wrong side, it's pretty similar to a Land-Rover OHV 4. Which is tractor-derived.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > McMike 04/07/2014 at 11:54

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This pic would seem to indicate the galleries and deck are wrong for a Triumph (Standard). So, unless the Fergie's different, that's not it.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 04/07/2014 at 13:21

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I'd be willing to bet it's Standard-Triumph. I recognise the chain cover. The Ferguson/TR2-4a I4 had wet liners as well, so I'd be willing to bet it's one of those as well.

Looks a bit different to the later TR engines though, so probably a Ferguson tractor engine.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires 04/07/2014 at 13:26

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The deck is open, which is unlike a TR. It's similar enough that I'm down to suspecting it's a related evolution, though - possibly due to being developed from an earlier variant. The pushrod passages being a set of three instead of 4 (two pushrods per gallery) is unlike the Triumph, but that's the sort of thing that can change over time or by whim.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 04/07/2014 at 13:39

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Yeah, I spent a while looking at the main dimensions. Block length, side of the cam etc. That seemed to match up, but the details are different.

I know that Standard-Triumph sold Ferguson tractors to Massey (creating Massey-Ferguson) to fund the development of the 2000/2500, so it may well be a development done by the company after they split.